tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34913460.post5891447257294822956..comments2022-11-10T09:42:44.491-05:00Comments on Bestiaria Latina: Latin Via Fables: Fabula Facilis: Minerva et NaufragusLaura Gibbshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34913460.post-82336911030695144582011-02-23T09:45:22.083-05:002011-02-23T09:45:22.083-05:00YES, absolutely - when I did the first version of ...YES, absolutely - when I did the first version of this I had left it in indirect speech and then when I changed it to direct speech the eripit stayed there - mea culpa! Of course it should be second, now that he is addressing the goddess directly. I've changed it to eripis (I'm trying to avoid subjunctives in the easy fables when I can). Thank you: this is exactly why I blog the first draft of everything. Then, when I go to do a book (years from now, at this rate) I get the benefit of having drafted once and nice people finding mistakes for me.Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34913460.post-19466838948263006212011-02-23T09:38:43.865-05:002011-02-23T09:38:43.865-05:00Shouldn't the verb in the SI-clause spoken by ...Shouldn't the verb in the SI-clause spoken by the Athenian be in the second person, since he's speaking directly to the goddess? SI...ERIPIS/ERIPAS...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17163461431025162048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34913460.post-90522693983196320922011-02-22T11:27:26.432-05:002011-02-22T11:27:26.432-05:00I'm sorry that the imperative does not do it f...I'm sorry that the imperative does not do it for you - an imperative is a command; the man swimming by is ordering the Athenian to get moving. It's not so much obligation as self-preservation! :-)<br />There are other variations on this proverb, too - or you can of course write your own! Here are the versions I've seen:<br />Cum Minerva et manum move.<br />Cum Minerva etiam manus move. <br />Cum Minerva manus etiam move. <br />Cum Minerva manum quoque move. <br />Cum Minerva manus quoque movenda est. <br />Minerva auxiliante, manum etiam admove. <br /><br />The imperative is the common form, but maybe you will like that gerundive. :-)Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34913460.post-77975867385024309332011-02-22T11:20:37.988-05:002011-02-22T11:20:37.988-05:00Last line
With Minerva you (must) move (your) han...Last line<br /><br />With Minerva you (must) move (your) hand also.<br /><br />As written there is no sense of obligation and the imperative form of moveo does not do it for me. What am I missing?clarkhttp://chodgson30@comcast.netnoreply@blogger.com